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Offline Jim C

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #90 on: July 07, 2022, 01:58:46 PM »
seems a bit optimistic time wise. 1hr 40 mins

Seems perfectly reasonable at 4am and 2340 when the roads will be deserted, but the rest of the journeys are timed for 2 hours.
Even still 2 hours and 2 mins will have to go some to achieve these times withe the amount of pick ups.
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #91 on: July 07, 2022, 07:42:21 PM »
seems a bit optimistic time wise. 1hr 40 mins

Seems perfectly reasonable at 4am and 2340 when the roads will be deserted, but the rest of the journeys are timed for 2 hours.
You say that, but they seemed to be testing earlier this week. The "1550 journey" left Glasgow on time, omitted Cumbernauld, picked nobody up at the request stops, and yet still got to Longforgan around 7 minutes late: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/308423?date=2022-07-05#journeys/281702135

I do think there needs to be more slack in the timetable, but I imagine that'll put more passengers off as journey times will be advertised as longer

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #92 on: July 07, 2022, 07:58:03 PM »
 When i did city-link duplicates to glasgow (straight through-no pick ups ) sometimes it took nearly 1hr 45 min . With traffic hold ups etc, But as you quite rightly say the times look good on paper.
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #93 on: July 07, 2022, 08:49:53 PM »
There’s a difference of at least 15 minutes between north and south bound journeys at the same time of day, which seems a bit odd?

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2022, 09:52:15 PM »
the stretch from m876 to the bus station and return is the sticking point really busy and if there is a bump on there.....

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2022, 04:41:08 PM »
Timetables for the Dundee – Glasgow E3 Ember Service, starting 1st August, are online SEE BELOW OR at  http://dundeebuses.info/000%202022%20Timetables/E03%20Dundee%20Glasgow%20Ember%201st%20August%202022.pdf
(Stopping Arrangements list to follow).

HOWEVER be aware that a soft launch is happening TOMMORROW (Thursday 14th July 2022) with limited services and to from Glasgow. This will not carry intermediate trips (Dundee-Stirling etc) presumable to qualify under “Express” Service rules. (Stirling is Castleview where I’ve said for years a broxden style arrangement for the P2 could work in Stirling too) – P&R Timetable at http://dundeebuses.info/000%202022%20Timetables/P02%20Stirling%20Park%20and%20Ride%20Castleview%20and%20Business%20Park%2010th%20August%202021.pdf
From 1st August the full service commences, so from that date all journeys will run (including through the night) and be available for local trips too.  Company blurb says;
We're launching a new route from Dundee to Glasgow. We'll be soft-launching with four services per day in each direction from 14 July. This will be followed by a full-service launch on 1 August with ten services per day in each direction, running 24/7.
It's just £8.50 for an adult single from Dundee to Glasgow if you book online (whether you book weeks before or a minute ahead).
In Dundee, we'll be picking up outside Malmaison in the city centre and dropping off at the train station (about 100m away from the pick up point). In Glasgow, we'll be calling at Buchanan Bus Station. We also have a range of intermediate stops including Stirling (Castleview Park & Ride), Dunblane, Cumbernauld and Perth (Broxden Park & Ride).
During the soft-launch period, it'll only be possible to book a journey to and from Glasgow but we'll be opening up the full range of journeys from 1 August.
You can see the full route and all the stops on our live map -  https://www.ember.to/map/
BE AWARE – in Dundee Service is picking up outside Malmaison Hotel (X90 stop) BUT unloading at one of the two Dundee Railway Station bus stops – NOT Greenmarket where the E1/E2 uses. Perth will be Broxden Park & Ride – NOT Walnut Grove – where 7 takes passengers to/from Perth during the day - http://dundeebuses.info/000%202022%20Timetables/007%20007A%20007B%20007C%20007S%20Perth%201st%20November%202021.pdf
End-to-end-Summary timetables to follow when Suzy gets a chance…
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #96 on: July 13, 2022, 10:50:06 PM »
excuse typos

Summary of Ember singles to/from Dundee
Web Fares below – add £2 for pay as you board  (NO CASH ONBOARD)
Auchterarder (Gleneagles Stn)         £4.50
Bridge of Earn               £3.00
Cumbernauld (Greenfaulds)         £7.20
Cumbernauld (Centre)            £7.20
Dunblane (Police Station)            £5.70
Dundee West (Tech Park)            £1.60
Edinburgh Zoo               £7.50
Edinburgh (Haymarket)            £7.50
Edinburgh (St Andrew Square)         £7.50
Edinburgh (Ingilston Park & Ride)         £6.50
Edinburgh Airport – Through Fare on Tram   £7.50
Glasgow (Buchanan Bus Station)         £8.50
Greenloaning   (Sherrifmuir Close)         £5.00
Incthrue                  £2.00
Kinross Park & Ride               £4.50
Longforfgan                  £2.00
Perth (Broxden Park & Ride)         £3.70
Perth (walnut Grove)            £3.00
Rosyth                  £5.40
St Madoes / Glencarse            £3.00
Stirling (Castleview Park & Ride)         £6.10

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #97 on: July 14, 2022, 10:47:29 AM »
You say that, but they seemed to be testing earlier this week. The "1550 journey" left Glasgow on time, omitted Cumbernauld, picked nobody up at the request stops, and yet still got to Longforgan around 7 minutes late: https://bustimes.org/vehicle /308423?date=2022-07-05#journeys/281702135

Upon looking up the fares I see Cumbernauld is starting 1st August with the rest of the pickups 14th July. This might be why none of the trials are using Cumbernauld, although i have no idea why. Like E3 instead of E3/E4 but there might be a later renumbering.
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2022, 06:33:21 PM »
PM2025892/2 EMBER CORE LTD, CODEBASE, ARGYLE HOUSE, 3 LADY LAWSON
STREET, EDINBURGH, EH3 9DR
Operating between St Andrew's Square, Edinburgh and Science Centre,
Greenmarket, Dundee given service number E2 effective from 01 September 2022

Would this mean it is going to be E1 in both directions?

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2022, 07:59:43 PM »
PM2025892/2 EMBER CORE LTD, CODEBASE, ARGYLE HOUSE, 3 LADY LAWSON
STREET, EDINBURGH, EH3 9DR
Operating between St Andrew's Square, Edinburgh and Science Centre,
Greenmarket, Dundee given service number E2 effective from 01 September 2022

Would this mean it is going to be E1 in both directions?
Yes.

PM2025892/1 Registered
EMBER CORE LTD
Route: Science Centre, Greenmarket, Dundee to St Andrews Square, Edinburgh via Inchture, Perth, Kinross Park & Ride, Rosyth
Service number: E1
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2022

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #100 on: November 14, 2022, 01:35:58 PM »
14/11

One of their coaches noted 'E3 Glasgow' on Strathern Road at 1334
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2022, 06:02:26 PM »
14/11

One of their coaches noted 'E3 Glasgow' on Strathern Road at 1334
Think they have moved their depot up to the Michelin.

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2022, 08:16:17 PM »
14/11

One of their coaches noted 'E3 Glasgow' on Strathern Road at 1334

Avoiding the problems on  the Arbroath Road

Think they have moved their depot up to the Michelin.

They now have an OC at the old Michelin complex.  however maintanence is still done at Sidlaw in Perrie Street
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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2022, 04:17:34 PM »
The booking system on Ember's website would suggest the E1 is being increased to every 75 minutes from December 14th, likewise the E3 is being increased to every 90 minutes from the same date

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Re: Ember electric coaches.
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2022, 07:48:02 PM »
From what I can see they are doing well. The dire situation with Scotrail is helping,  plus having six nations and home autumn rugby tests. The fringe and festival getting back to normality has no doubt helped. And maybe the local stagecoach company struggling has helped? There has not been an aggressive backlash, that might be because they simply don't have the means to do it at the moment.